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Hockey Headlines The Role of The Hockey Tough Guy
Posted by chisel_my_nizzle on Friday, March 23, 2007
As the Flyers Todd Fedoruk fell to the ice on March 21, a similar and uncommon question resounded throughout the NHL. "Is fighting becoming a problem in hockey?" Before we can get into that, I'll try to give you an idea of the context of the fight previously mentioned. Todd Fedoruk and Colten Orr (who both had stops with the Regina Pats) decide to go at it. Fedoruk who plays on a team already eliminated from the playoffs dropped the gloves with New York's Colten Orr right off the faceoff early in the first frame. After a few exchanged rights, Orr connected with a right that puts Fedoruk to sleep. He was taken off on a stretcher and then later taken to hospital for further analysis. From the outside looking in shedding the mits looked like a bad judgement call on Fedoruks part. He is on a team that is playing for next season and you would think that with his previous injuries he would keep himself out of such a situation. But a fighter in the NHL has a different mindframe. When a fighter is challenged or feels his team needs a boost the consequences of fighting don't enter into the picture until afterwards. This is the thankless role of the NHL tough guy.

Fighting has been, and always will be an important part of the game of hockey. And until there is a serious injury (even death), most likely nothing will be done to change the ruling on fighting. The NHL has had a pretty busy and uncharacteristic week regarding violence and suspensions which has brought up the issue of allowing violence in the game. The problem is that there is a very fine line between fighting and using physical force on an opponent; and overconforming to the norms of the sport and taking the violence too far. Thus in the Chris Simon case a lengthy suspension was expected and handed down but in the Jordin Tootoo case several conflicting oppinions led to an argueable final result. There is no direct guideline for handing down suspensions and delineating what kind of fighting is acceptable and what is not.

The hockey community feels badly for Todd Fedoruk. An event like this is never positive and we hate to see a true warrior go down like that. But on the other end of the stick, should Fedoruk have maybe kept his gloves on and not fought? Todd already has metal plates in his cheekbones and face from previous fights, including a KO at the hands of Wild tough guy Derrick Boogaard. (Another Regina lad, what's up with that?) But as a fighter, you understand your role and will sacrifice everything to fulfill it. Anyway you spin it, at the rate that the NHL is going, the players are getting so much stronger, faster and bigger that inevitably someone is going to get seriously injured in a fight. And that, my friends, will be a black day for the Canadian game
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Re: The Role of The Hockey Tough Guy
by icetiger on Tuesday, March 27, 2007
Never seen so many "Chicken Little's"- "The sky is falling!!!" as I have since Fedoruk took a bad punch.. There's risk in fighting, for the love of Gawd.. That's what we do and we all know what's at stake before we go into a fight... You just hope not to take a punch like that.. but you fight long enough and fight the big boys.. you're bound to eat one once in a while.. The one good thing I've heard Gary Bettman say was "People have been running off on this subject.." But don't be fooled for a minute, if he didn't think there was money to made off these boys beating the sh** out of one another he'd be the loudest chicken little of them all..


Re: The Role of The Hockey Tough Guy
by CiaoBella1745 on Tuesday, March 27, 2007
I don't think hockey can afford to lose anymore fans...

Several of my ref and linesmen buds said they would quit, or be out of a job if this actually goes through.


I think it's total bullshit.


Re: The Role of The Hockey Tough Guy
by donny on Saturday, March 24, 2007
they aint taken fighting out of hockey..


Re: The Role of The Hockey Tough Guy
by yeah on Saturday, March 24, 2007
all everybody is talking about is how they can bring more fans to the hockey games and what they have to do but if they take out fighting which is the stupidest thing i have heard the attentace is going to drop so much. i was listening the radio and some goof said that there should be no fighting because little kids go the the game and that would make them want to fight... obviously kids are not going to fight at the age of 8 and 9... hockey needs fighting and they need the tough guys they attract the fans


Re: The Role of The Hockey Tough Guy
by NYRhockey00 on Saturday, March 24, 2007
this was an agreed upon fight, nobody dropped the gloves before the other, the fridge just caught the shat end of the stick on this one, people get knocked out and bad things happen, fighting is a part of the sport and if the NHL execs take it out, you can pretty much say goodbye to any possible new watchers of the game


Re: The Role of The Hockey Tough Guy
by valleyhockey94 on Friday, March 23, 2007
i agree, what makes this sport great is that players have to take responsibility for their actions. If someone decides to run a guy from behind he knows hes going to have to pay for it. Without fighting players will be more likely to take a run at the more skilled players in the league. Besides who dosent love a good tilt in the middle of the game.


    Re: The Role of The Hockey Tough Guy
    by nubbins on Friday, March 23, 2007
    And im pretty sure if there were fighting in basketball and football then people wouldnt be getting shot.


    Re: The Role of The Hockey Tough Guy
    by navanboy on Friday, March 23, 2007
    everyone whos actually laced em up..knows that fighting is needed...all these lil fucker dick sucking critics whove never worn a pair of skates say it should not be allowed...you fucking retard critics..fighting isnt allowed..you get a penalty..so fuck you there has always been fighting and always will be..what can they do..suspend you for fighting? that wont end fighting..no matter the penalty if someone buries crosby from behind.hes gunna get fucked up by laraque


      Re: The Role of The Hockey Tough Guy
      by nubbins on Friday, March 23, 2007
      and now fedoruk says fighters should wear padded gloves... quit whining you got your ass kicked twice this year suck it up... what does he want after, a fuckin octagon in the middle of the rink?


Re: The Role of The Hockey Tough Guy
by nubbins on Friday, March 23, 2007
I just thinki it is ridiculous that the TSN panel of experts even thought about bringing the subject of ruling out fighting in hockey. LIke the previous commet fighting has always been a part of hockey. If we rule out fighting we will see more slashes like Chris Simon and more serious injuries because outlet that fighting offers, which is a chance to let any built up tension out, will be gone so players will instinctively find some other way to get back at an opposing player. Every year there are KO's and broken jaws and cheekbones. I do not think hockey is gettin more violent, I just think the critics are getting softer. If you look back at this game as far as you can go people have always been injured in fights. Does someone expect butterflies and tulips in our game? It will and always has been a game of grit and guts, but is the only one to combine that with a razzle dazzle of the more skileld players. Fighting is a part of hockey, which has been said far too many times. Let's just leave it that way


    Re: The Role of The Hockey Tough Guy
    by valleyhockey94 on Friday, March 23, 2007
    i agree, what makes this sport great is that players have to take responsibility for their actions. If someone decides to run a guy from behind he knows hes going to have to pay for it. Without fighting players will be more likely to take a run at the more skilled players in the league. Besides who dosent love a good tilt in the middle of the game.


Re: The Role of The Hockey Tough Guy
by winger121 on Friday, March 23, 2007
Fighting is Hockey and Hockey is fighting...Plain and Simple.



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